Spots TV !

Il a été diffusé hier soir, durant la saison final de Smallville:

léger spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/v/L8c9a_Lsp6M

Bon à priori, le "spoiler" serait vraisemblablement autre chose qu'un scoop, ce serait l'histoire du film quoi...
c'est dommage qu'il joue là dessus alors que ça se passerait vers la fin du film...

Super le clip, cependant il est vrai qu'il devrait pas mettre trop de spoilers dans les prochains, faut pas non plus dire tous les secrets du film sinon il y a plus d'intéret !

qui connait la durée du film svp?

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kryptoncorp a écrit:qui connait la durée du film svp?

J'ai entendu dire un peu plus de 150 min... Mais je ne suis pas sur que l'infos était sur à 100%.

Oui dans les 2h30 2h45 !
Mais bon...

c'est vrai qu'il faut pas trop en montrer, mais là, quand même, ça reste raisonnable !...

le resumé du scenar est si vague que les spot et autres trailer ne sont pas en mesure de nous dévoilé le contenu de l histoire.les quelques secondes que nous connaissons du film ne m ont aucunement éclairé sur le retour sur krypton ou le "flash back" sur le jeune clark par exemple.donc ,a mon avis ils sont loin de tout nous dévoilés et nous laisse mijoter en nous donnant juste l ambiance...

A mon avis le scénario est celui ci :

Attention les yeux spoilers




Crash du vaisseau de Kal, martha le récupére, blabla et flashbacks. Retour de Clark au Daily, au bar avec jimmy, avion en perdition, clark s'en va, superman arrive, il sauve l'avion, superman est de retour, luthor pas content, il trouve la forteresse, superman va le voir, il est blessé, superman revien sur terre et est hospitalisé, luthor fait son big bang, superman est sauvé par son fils (oui oh eh soyons pas content), le public sort de la salle, superman sauve tout le monde.
En gros le 1 mais avec un fils

t'es sur pour le fils, peuvent pas le renvoyer dans un pensionnat pour jeunes filles ou il fera son éducation pour les 50 prochaines années ?...

Je ne me prononcerai que quand j'aurai lu le comics préquel Lois Lane... (c'est le dernier en plus !)

Aux Etats-Unis, il y a une pratique très courante concernant les films en post-prod, surtout ceux qui sont très attendus, ce sont les screenings: en gros, ça consiste à projeter le film quelques mois avant sa sortie, alors même qu'il n'est pas encore terminé (musique quasi-absente, des scènes pas encore montées avec les changements d'angles et de caméras, les effets spéciaux pas encore faits, etc...). Le spectateur ignore quel film il va voir lorsqu'il se paye sa place à une séance de cinéma screening. Autrefois, les producteurs ne diffusaient que quelques scènes clés, mais aujourd'hui, ils diffusent de plus en plus les films complets. L'intérêt pour le spectateur, c'est de voir un film longtemps avant tout le monde (en plus, souvent ce sont les films les plus attendus pour lesquels le screening est pratiqué), et l'intérêt pour les producteurs, c'est de connaitre la réaction du public, histoire de corriger le tir si nécessaire avant la sortie publique. En effet, les spectateurs de ces séances de screening doivent remplir un questionnaire précis à la fin de la séance sur ce qu'ils ont pensé du film et pourquoi, leurs opinions, leurs idées, ce qu'ils ont aimé, ce qui les a rebutés...

Pourquoi est-ce que je raonte tout ça? Parce que quelqu'un qui a assisté au screening de Superman Returns (quelqu'un qui a donc déjà vu le film dans une version pas encore terminée donc) a écrit ses opinions sur le film tel qu'elle l'a vu, en racontant l'histoire également. ça a été posté sur le forum de Zoomway. Je vous le remets ici. Son texte est en anglais, évidemment.

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I saw this movie 2 months ago in South L.A. but I didn’t bother to write a review. But I just saw Moriarty’s mini script review and felt compelled to set the story straight. I really liked this film, long as it was (about 2 and a half hours!) and it kinda ticked me off that it seems to be getting a bum rap. A fake negative review? C’mon. Well I’m going to set the story straight, and that is that this is a very good movie.

This is not Batman Begins, and despite what you might be led to believe, the overall tone is a lot like Superman 2, if not a little bit more serious. It's big and fun, but it has a heart. The love story is the basis for almost all of it’s drama, but what Singer cleverly has done is added a new element, and it is what will make most fans say “wow. Superman really ISNT all that boring”. He’s given Lois Lane not only a boyfriend, but a child! On paper, that sounds AWFUL. Lois lane? A mother! WHAT! Well yeah, that’s how it is, if your really narrow minded. What the child does is cement the fact that lois has MOVED ON and superman’s never ever had to deal with this problem before, and that is what makes us able to relate to him, the fact that we all have dealt with this very problem before. This adds a huge element to the movie and makes a much more mature film than you’d think. Instead of the standard "loves her but cant have her” love story, here’s a story where he DID have her and he blew it, and now he’s trying to rekindle the relationship. I don’t really get why some fans have such trouble grasping that, unless your one of those geeks that’s never been in a relationship so you obviously wont relate to this problem. But seeing Superman being jealous, while it might not be exactly what he does in the comics, makes the movie better. Giving Superman the slightest “edge”, or as some fans have said, making him emo-it all makes Superman much more relatable;he’s no longer just somebody who can do everything he ever wanted to. We know exactly what he’s going though, and Singer really took time to hammer home that fact and it totally pays off. That’s where the film gets really good, when they finally seem to be hitting off again, Luthor comes in and totally messes up everything, and the solution involves a lot of superman.

And ya know, Im not dumb. The fans know Superman is the kids father. But in the movie it is not bad. Your almost wishing he is the father, just because you know he is supposed to be with Lois. Like with Peter Parker and Mary Jane, Peter is taking a backseat to guys like Flash Thompson of John Jameson and you as the audience want Peter to get with MJ even it means hurting his good friend Harry; it’s the same here. You accept he has a kid so he can be with Lois. And people, don’t be surprised. They don’t have to outright say “Lois and Superman had sex” to get the point, either. Basically here Superman takes a backseat to Richard and Jason, and he’s never done that, so it’s very, very interesting and refreshing source of drama for a superman movie. And ya know, there are going to be people who just flat out dont like it. Thats fine.But this not a bad film by any means, and I doubt the public think of it as bad either.

Ok, so now that that **** has been explained and cleared up, I’ll move onto the plot, performances, and the action and special effects. The music obviously was not finished and neither were the fx, but it was easy to tell what was happening in the scenes. The plot is simple. Superman returns to Earth and has to juggle his ruined relationship with Lois while Lex Luthor is trying to kill and kills “billions!”. I’ll be flat, the second half of the film is where it really gets going. The first half is him in space, then in smallville, and then finally returning to Metropolis. Bits and pieces of Luthor and Lois are thrown in but not a lot. Like every other Superhero film with the exception of Batman, it gets going about an hour in when our hero finally…ahem…returns. The airplane/space shuttle saving is really incredible…the fx were not done but you could tell from what was there this will be a very intense and memorable scene. Panic flows from Mission control as the first not-nasa-related space flight seems to be a complete disaster until Superman show’s up. He also saves the plane, and sets down in the middle of a baseball stadium. He goes inside and gives a little speech, and then goes to leave the front door to walk into 1000 cameras…so the world knows: hes back.

Then there was a very enjoyable sequence of Superman doing various jobs saving the world. He saves some mountain climbers, puts out some fires, and finally, he stops a bank robbery that was really cool. Now comes little bits and pieces of Lois and Clark, either in the daily planet, or Superman watching her or some ****, combined with little bits of Luthor and his scheme. He’s kicked an elderly woman out of her mansion and taken her yacht, why we’ll find out later. He robs a museum of it’s kryptonite so he can kill Superman.

Meanwhile, the world is DYING to know where Superman’s been, and Lois is basically forced by White to give him an interview, no matter how much she does not want to. It’s hard, especially for her. They do eventually begin to warm up to each other, and end it with a very, very memorable scene where they go flying. Lois is still nervous, but they kind of fall of in love while they go flying. You wont get it now, but when you see it on screen you’ll know what I mean. It just looks...right.

Other little bits happen, but now here’s the next action scene. In comparison to the first two this is very, very small, and it’s also complicated. Basically, Lois and Jason are…kidnapped would be the word I guess-by Lex and his crew. Heres where we find out his plan-he’s used to the kryptonion technology he got at the fortress to make a new continent. It’s already partially created, and by making it full with this kryptonion missile he has would cause a massive worldwide Earthquake and kills billions!Used as bait, Superman comes, and Lex and his men fight him, using stolen kryptonite to make him powerless. They STAB him with the kryptonite, and he’s essentially dies right before lois as they shove him off a cliff on new krypton.

So, with Superman seemingly out of the way, Lois in tears, Lex locks em up in the boat, and proceeds ahead. What he does not count on is his girlfriend, the weird Kitty Kosloski, thinks he’s nuts and is having a change of heart. Meanwhile, Superman go to the fortress of solitude, where Jor-el gives him his powers back just in time to save the day as the big earthquake hits. I wont spoil the rest, but I’ll just say, it’s good. The very final scene of the film is also, a an instant classic. This film is the ultimate blockbuster-action,drama,comedy. It's got a very happy ending all around.

Now that you know what happens, you can see its not bad. The pacing is good, very similar to Superman 1. Performance wise, it’s all good. Spacey’s a very memorable Lex, and Routh is a very good Superman. His Clark Kent is bumbling with a high voice, while his Superman is powerful and idealistic. Trust me, he’s good. But the real scene stealer is Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. I dunno why, but I just really liked her. Her character is the kind that is hard to not fall in love with. Even when she’s mad, she’s just hard not to like. We can see why Superman is so in love with her.

And now the action. I read in Moriaty’s review that he says theres only 2 action scenes in the whole script-well I’m here to tell you that s a total LIE. Theres 2 action scenes in the way Spiderman had 2 action scenes-or in other words, theres 2 super huge action sequences, and then a lot of other smaller stuff. The plane sequence will be amazing and worth the price of admission. The saving the day montage is classic Superman. The earthquake scene is a 2 parter. Like again, in Spider-man,you have the finale is the bridge and then the fight, but its all one big action scene. Same here. You’ve got the intense Earthquake scene, which has a lot of stuff, from runaway trains to toppling bridges to demolishing buildings. The you’ve got the fight after, including how superman stops new krypton and the fights on the Gertrude,that mega boat.

To sum up, this will surprise you. It’s a way more mature film then a lot of people will realize. In case you haven’t realized it from reading what happens, this is a big, big film that will be very entertaining and it’s also very good. This is not wall-to-wall action which is why I think Moriaty was bummed. But it is action mixed with drama mixed with comedy. Theres nothing to worry about, and no reason to have so much negative buzz. Moriaty said he didn’t like that the pacing almost exactly like Superman the movie-yeah hes right. That doesn’t mean its BAD-that means its good if anything, because it worked for that movie. It worked for Spider-man. It worked for Batman Begins. And it works for Superman Returns. Call me BlackJack, and I’m out.

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Ah oui je l'avais déjà lu sur AICN je crois cette review... mouais c'est pas non plus très détaillé

J'ai pas trop compris, l'anglais je suis moyen

ce qui est marrant, c'est les gars qui ont déjà vu le film des mois à l'avance alors que le réalisateur a pas fini de le monter !...

mais c'est exactement ça le but du screening: montrer ce qu'on a au public avant que ce soit terminé et pouvoir utiliser leurs réactions pour prendre les meilleurs décisions concernant le travail qui reste à faire sur le film avant sa sortie publique.

Ouais, mais les reaction seront pas toujours bonne si le film est pas totalement fini ! Un film se compose de differentes chose pour former LE FILM SUPER !

exactement. c'est pour ça que cette personne a écrit cette review. C'était une réponse à une autre review, écrite par un autre fan qui a vu le screening, et qui n'a pas trop apprécié.

Mais généralement, ça ne joue pas trop. Les gens qui se paient des séances de screening quand ils vont au cinema ne savent pas quel film ils vont voir, mais ils savent que ce sera très brouillon, et ils ne s'attendent pas, pour la plupart, à voir des trucs géniaux. Ils sont forcément volontaires pour servir de spectateur test puisqu'ils achètent leurs places plein tarif. Ils savent à quel qualité de projection s'attendre.

hum.. Mouais mais je pense qu'on peut diviser internet en deux : ceux qui l'attendent avec impatience et ceux qui redoutent

Redoutent : AICN, Mad Movies
Impatient : Superherohype, BLuetights, Ecran Fantastique, Score

http://www.kal-el.org/2006/05/superman-returns-tv-spot-2.html

Second spot tv un peu plus pop rock ^^

LeMartien a écrit:http://www.kal-el.org/2006/05/superman-returns-tv-spot-2.html

Second spot tv un peu plus pop rock ^^

On voit que ce spot était destiné à rejoindre les amateurs de la série The OC. j'aime quand même bien.

Excelent, enfin on découvre richard white !

Spot 03 : ACTION !
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=2008